Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/08/1993 03:40 PM Senate TRA

Audio Topic
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
txt
                                                                               
                 SENATE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE                               
                          March 8, 1993                                        
                            3:40 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Senator Bert Sharp, Chairman                                                 
  Senator Randy Phillips, Vice Chairman                                        
  Senator Jay Kerttula                                                         
  Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                   
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator Tim Kelly                                                            
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Yukon  Government  Presentation  on   Arctic  Transportation                 
  Routes                                                                       
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  John Ostashek                                                                
  Government Leader                                                            
  Minister of Finance                                                          
  Yukon Territory                                                              
                                                                               
  Doug Phillips                                                                
  Minister of Tourism and Education                                            
  Yukon Territory                                                              
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-12, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN SHARP  called the Transportation  Committee meeting                 
  to  order  at  3:40  p.m.  and  invited the  Honorable  John                 
  Ostashek,  Government  Leader,  Ministry  of Finance,  Yukon                 
  Territory to give his presentation.                                          
                                                                               
  MR. JOHN OSTASHEK  thanked him  for having  the meeting  and                 
  began with  an  overview  of  the Dempster  Hwy.  that  goes                 
  through Canada to  the Arctic  Coast.  It  starts about  500                 
  kilometers north of Whitehorse and is built over tundra most                 
  of the way.  It was  started in 1958 and completed in  1979.                 
  It cost $127.6  million.  During  the months of June,  July,                 
  and August there are about 100 vehicles a day using the road                 
  and for the remainder of the year, it is about 30 vehicles a                 
  day.   About  7% of  that  is truck  traffic.   He  said the                 
  highway goes through environmentally critical country with a                 
  lot  of permafrost and caribou.   The caribou migrate across                 
  the Dempster Highway.                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
  He  said  the difficulty  is  the  cost of  maintaining  it,                 
  because  it  travels through  a  lot  of open  country.   He                 
  believes in future years it  will be a real lifeline  to the                 
  Arctic and McKenzie Delta.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 172                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN said she didn't want to put him on a spot by                 
  asking these questions,  but she  is interested because  the                 
  majority of the Dalton Highway is  within her district.  She                 
  said  there  are a  lot of  unknowns if  the road  should be                 
  opened to the public.                                                        
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LINCOLN asked  him about  the truck  traffic.   MR.                 
  OSTASHEK said 7% of  the traffic was commercial trucks.   He                 
  said that people were using the  highway more, because it is                 
  well maintained.                                                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN asked him if communities along the road were                 
  mostly  native.    MR. OSTASHEK  explained  there  were many                 
  native people in the communities along the road.                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN asked  if the  public traffic was  primarily                 
  people who lived in  the two communities  on the road.   MR.                 
  OSTASHEK said the majority of the  traffic is tourist.  They                 
  allow people to  hunt and  fish in the  road area,  although                 
  there  is  a five  kilometer  no-hunting corridor  along the                 
  highway which is patrolled  by their conservation  officers.                 
  There are very  few infractions.   He said there are  public                 
  camp grounds along  the route and  the foremen at the  three                 
  highway camps patrol the road once a day.                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN asked if they have a problem with people who                 
  leave old vehicles  along the road.   MR. OSTACHEK said  old                 
  vehicles and litter, in general, wasn't  a problem.  He said                 
  the road is also in good condition.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 304                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LINCOLN   asked  if  he  had  any  feed  back  from                 
  indigenous  people  in that  area  on the  increased tourist                 
  traffic.  He  emphasized that  they have encouraged  tourism                 
  and want to  further enhance it, because it is  a benefit to                 
  their community.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 360                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR KERTTULA  asked if  they  have the  policy of  using                 
  local  materials for  structures their  tax  payers support?                 
  MR. OSTASHEK said that policy has not worked  as good as the                 
  administration would have liked it to work.                                  
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN asked how big were the communities of Inuvik                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  and Fort  MacPherson.   MR. OSTASHEK  said Enuvik was  about                 
  1,500 people and  Fort MacPherson  was about 600.   He  said                 
  there  was a  phone at  Eagle  Plains and  at the  other two                 
  highway maintenance camps.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 432                                                                   
                                                                               
  DOUG PHILLIPS, Minister  of Tourism and Education,  said the                 
  winter  ferry schedule did  not coincide very  well with the                 
  weekends  so that  people in  White Horse  could  not travel                 
  between the two countries very  conveniently.  He thought it                 
  would be in the best interests of both countries to consider                 
  this.                                                                        
                                                                               
  MR. PHILLIPS also endorsed building  the road from Juneau to                 
  White Horse.  He thought it  would tie together about 50,000                 
  people.  It  would give  Yukon another port  and give  other                 
  Alaskans another route  to Alaska.   It would  open up  many                 
  mining opportunities between Juneau and Whitehorse.                          
                                                                               
  Dawson City over the next six years is going to be the focal                 
  point of tourism  for the  Yukon, because of  the gold  rush                 
  centennial and other celebrations.  If we were to look ahead                 
  at tourism opportunities for both  of us, MR. PHILLIPS said,                 
  loop roads would be the way to go.                                           
                                                                               
  Another problem is  the bottleneck  at the American  Border,                 
  because the hours they keep there do not coincide with ferry                 
  connections.                                                                 
                                                                               
  MR. PHILLIPS said  a road to  Juneau would create access  to                 
  tidewater for the Atlin area that has good mining potential.                 
                                                                               
  Number 562                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHIP  THOMA, Juneau  resident,  noted  that  the  indigenous                 
  people on  the Dempster  Highway have  encouraged that  road                 
  being  opened.    They have  not  done  that  on the  Dalton                 
  Highway.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 570                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN  asked if  the corridor  along the  Dempster                 
  Highway  was owned  by  the Canadian  government and  if the                 
  indigenous people  owned any  portion of it.   MR.  PHILLIPS                 
  said their land claims  weren't settled yet.  Right  now the                 
  corridor belongs to the government.                                          
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN SHARP adjourned the meeting at 4:25 p.m.                            
                                                                               

Document Name Date/Time Subjects